Interview with Andreino Pagano
Andreino Pagano (b. 1934) remembers his wartime experiences in the Pavia province. He explains how a parish church provided a good shelter owing to its thick walls. Recalls various stories: resorting to the black market, the bombing of the Voghera railway works, daytime strafing of a lorry delivering biscuit boxes, scattering them all over the place, the driver seeking shelter inside a vineyard cottage fireplace and afterwards being mistaken for a chimney sweep as he was covered in soot; Germans seizing his only workhorse which was later returned, being 'bobtailed'. Describes how his farmhouse was first occupied by German and then American soldiers, the latter coming with so-called ‘Mongols’. Remembers the first use of Penicillin and food being stored in a well like a larder. Mentioning 'Pippo' flying and recollecting blacked-out windows covered with blue paper. He remembers the droning noise made by the bombers and the bombs as they were falling.
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2017-07-12
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00:15:58 audio recording
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Interview with Angela Bianchi
World War (1939-1945)
Bombing, Aerial
Angela Bianchi remembers wartime life in the outskirts of Pavia, where she lived on a farm with other families. Recalls her experiences of being bombed while working in a clothes factory situated close to one of the most important Ticino bridges, then a strategic target. Gives a detailed description of two shelters: the first under palazzo Botta, a vast building in the city centre; the second, a mere dugout in the middle of a field. Reminisces over the fear of being trapped underground. Recollects a number of wartime episodes: work being disturbed by bombing and strafing, food pilfering, rustling, using a precarious pontoon bridge erected by army engineers, the visit of Benito Mussolini, after which living conditions improved. Recalls 'Pippo' strafing at night, although she was never sure of its allegiance. Describes long term effects of bombing and how low flying aircraft still scare her.
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2017-02-23
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01:02:27 audio recording
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Interview with Carluccio Intropido
Carluccio Intropido recalls his early life as an orphan studying in Pavia at the Artigianelli, a boarding school providing technical training. He recalls that children used to watch aircraft en route to Milan, until Pavia was bombed owing to the strategical value of their bridges. Recalls being caught under a bombing attack during a field trip, narrowly escaping death. Describes an aircraft on Pavia being hit and aircrew bailing out. One injured and captured, while others were spirited away to Switzerland by local people. Describes school children taken to the crash site and recalls an engine stuck atop a mulberry tree and debris scattered all around. Remembers people salvaging items, among them a first aid kit and a leather aircrew cap, the latter being used when the informant was later enlisted as an army despatch rider. Praises aircrew as heroes for refraining to drop bombs on Pavia when the aircraft was hit. Recalls the liberation of the city mentioning Mario Cecchetti - an insurgent manning a clandestine radio station - and two military chaplains hidden inside the school. Stresses how it was liberated in a non-violent way, mainly through ruse and suasion, and downplays the role of partisans. Describes how people taking shelter in a ditch (Tomba dell’acqua negra) were crushed by nearby explosions. Emphasises a light-hearted approach to war, describing hunger was feared more than the bombing. Recounts anecdotes of the ‘Mongols’ billeted at the school, troops captured by the Germans and deployed for anti-partisan operations. Recalls Pippo and describes its regular passages as being so accurate that people could check the clock against it. Emphasises its role as a black-out checker, in the context of curfew regulations but he was not sure if it was an Allied or Axis aircraft. Describes a post-war encounter with a person who claimed to know an alternative version of Mussolini’s death; he was killed during an escape attempt followed by a staged execution the day after.
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2017-01-25
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00:47:21 audio recording
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Interview with Celestino Chiesa
Celestino Chiesa remembers his wartime memories as a schoolboy in Pavia, while he was attending the Artigianelli boarding school: food shortages; rationing; Pippo bombing at night; machine-gun nests along the Ticino river; a friend joining the Fascist militia; the bombing of Ponte Vecchio and Borgo Ticino. Stresses how the bombing of Pavia started after the 8 September 1943 armistice. Talks of when he was caught in strafing, and how the memory of the event still unsettles him. Retells of an aircraft jettisoning its bomb load before crashing and how he visited the wreckage site later on. Remembers the constant high-pitched sound of the siren. Describes the time spent in the basement, sitting on a sawdust pile, playing with his friends stressing how they weren’t afraid at all. Mentions his mixed feelings about the public display of Mussolini’s body.
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2017-02-10
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00:36:23 audio recording
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Interview with Federico Martinotti
World War (1939-1945)
Bombing, Aerial
Federico Martinotti reminisces over the Pavia bombing on the 26 September 1944. Describes the effects on the buildings near the Ticino River (the old bridge being the aiming point of the attack) and mentions the salvaging of valuable items from the debris. Remembers the attitude of his grandfather, a solicitor who had his vast studio destroyed but was still grateful for not having lost his life. Describes improvised shelters, 'Pippo', and black out precautions. Describes bombs being dropped as resembling paratroopers jumping out of an aircraft. Gives an account of the Canottieri Ticino, the rowing club.
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2017-03-09
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00:14:13 audio recording
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Interview with Franco Nocchieri
World War (1939-1945)
Bombing, Aerial
Franco Nocchieri recalls his early years as an orphan in several different towns in the Province of Pavia. He describes the bombing of the Voghera railway station, which started while he was heading to school. He goes on to explain how he and his schoolmates used to cheer during air-raids, as they were free to skip school and play. He recounts his experience as live-in delivery boy at his stepfather’s tavern at Albaredo Arnaboldi, a vantage point from which he witnessed the daily attempts to destroy the Ponte della Becca, a bridge across the Po river. Franco describes his memories of ‘Pippo’, which he tried to watch every night, and mentions it dropping explosive devices disguised as fountain pens and toys. He describes the difficult coexistence between the local population and Axis troops, stressing the brutality of fascist militiamen. He also describes the fearsome reputation of a prison in the nearby town of Broni, known as ‘Villa Triste’, where many people disappeared. He remarks on his fearless attitude, except while listening to Radio Londra, which was a criminal offence at the time. Franco comments on the food shortages of the time and describes how the poor resorted to eating cats, which were considered to be a substitute for rabbit. He also recounts several wartime events, including: a narrow escape from the Ponte della Becca bombing; widespread fear inspired by so-called ‘Mongols’ (which were part of a German foreign division); a public execution; a friend killed by a bomb believed to have been dropped by ‘Pippo’; the strafing of a funeral procession, and the sight of Felice Fiorentini, a war criminal dubbed 'The Beast', being paraded in and around the province in a cage after the end of the war. He also mentions various stories from his time as a member of the Azione Cattolica Italiana, a Roman Catholic lay association.
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2017-02-02
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01:05:47 audio recording
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Interview with Gabriella Bisio and Teresa Mascherpa
World War (1939-1945)
Bombing, Aerial
Gabriella Bisio and Teresa Mascherpa recollect the bombing of Pavia and give a vivid description of its immediate aftermath. They describe food shortages, resorting to eating potatoes with milk and queuing up for a portion of salt. Gabriella emphasises how her father refused to join the fascist party and how the war ended the day he was about to be deported. They recount various wartime episodes: a German soldier in the act of surrendering being shot in the back by his comrades, harrowing scenes of bodies carried away on wooden stretchers, and acts of kindness by fascist relatives, 'Pippo' bombing at night, anti-aircraft batteries positioned in the city and the accidental bombing of a church and houses near the old bridge which was the actual target.
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2017-03-08
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00:18:48 audio recording
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Interview with Luigi Cabrini
Luigi Cabrini describes his daily life in a rural community stressing the labour-intensive nature of farming in wartime. Mentions Pippo bombing at night, and reminisces a chequered schooling history in Pavia and Voghera owing to strafing, bombings and disrupted train services. Mentions the difficult coexistence with feared German troops, stressing brutalities and violence. Reminisces giving shelter to one British personnel who became the lover of a farm hand.
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2017-01-15
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00:20:47 audio recording
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Interview with Marino Ferrari
World War (1939-1945)
Bombing, Aerial
Marino Ferrari recalls his early life as an engineer at Pavia arsenal, and later in Catanzaro and Verona. Describes his life as an Italian military internee in East Prussia, working in different lumberyards. Speaks with affection of the German families he worked for, stressing mutual help, solidarity, and reasonably good living conditions. Recounts stories of his wartime experience: sourcing spare parts for machinery; dealing with authorities, civilians and other prisoners of war; rumours of the Stauffenberg plot. Describes two bombings: the first at a train station where he was loading tree trunks, the second when a shell exploding nearby slicing off a soldier's foot. Provides an account of night bombings on Berlin, describing the descent of target indicators, aircraft being coned by searchlights and civilians hiding in makeshift shelters. Chronicles the occupation by Soviet troops and recounts tricks and ruses used to get food and supplies, especially cigarettes. Narrates the trials and tribulations of his journey back to Casteggio.
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2017-01-16
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01:19:52 audio recording
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Interview with Pietro Varesi
World War (1939-1945)
Bombing, Aerial
Pietro Varesi describes wartime life in Pavia, focussing on the Borgo neighbourhood. He mentions the Ticino bridges as primary targets for bombers; recalls bent shop shutters and debris on the streets; stresses the limited accuracy of bombing and the damage to civilian buildings. Describes how ineffectual anti-aircraft fire was and remembers playing on anti-aircraft guns when the gunners were eating and drinking at a nearby country inn. Contrasts the reaction of adults being frightened and alarmed, with the care-free attitudes of youngsters. Mentions street urchins involved in dangerous games often with disastrous consequences. Criticises makeshift shelters, deemed tantamount to death traps. Recalls various wartime episodes: being a member of fascist organisations while his father was an opponent of the fascist regime, deserters, repression of partisan activities, corpses hidden in a church, 'Pippo' flying at night, disrupted communications, improvised footbridges, rationing, the black market, and food pilfering. Describes men quickly exchanging fascist uniforms with red handkerchiefs at the end of the war. Reflects on the bombing war and stresses the duality of liberators / tormentors.
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2017-03-08
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Interview with Rinaldo Sarani
Rinaldo Sarani reminisces about the bombings of Pavia describing widespread damage at Borgo Ticino and people being extricated out of rubble. Stressed the importance of bridges: ponte della ferrovia, ponte vecchio, ponte dell’impero, ponte della Becca. Describes how inefficient anti-aircraft fire was, being mockingly dubbed “pensioner’s flak“. Reminisces about various wartime episodes: Pippo flying at night, the danger of minefields, partisan actions, killings, fascist militiamen brutalities, the Mongols (which were part of a German foreign division), makeshift shelters, and people being tortured in Broni. Describes a bomb dump explosion and how people disassembled ordnance to salvage explosives used for fishing, often with tragic consequences. Elaborates on the Fascism and recollects a person being helped by Rachele Mussolini.
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2017-03-25
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Interview with Sandro Boiocchi
Sandro Boiocchi remembers wartime memories at Travacò, in the Pavia area. Mentions various episodes: food shortages, the black market, fascist and German roundups, Pippo flying at night, bombing of bridges, giving shelter to evacuees. Tells how stables provided warm shelter but were also used as hidden storage for weapons. Mentions seeing an aircraft taken down in the woods, with a dead pilot still inside the cockpit. Remembers the blowing up of an ammunition dump and the following blast wave, which shattered their windows and doors. Describes the strict instructions issued by parents and relatives to black out the windows extremely well in order not to serve as a target for bombings at night. Tells of when his mother stood up against a group of Germans and fascists intending to search their house for food and how she told them off. Recounts episodes of selfless generosity and moral integrity . Explains how, following a direct order from the partisan leaders, actions against the German troops were forbidden in the Travacò area, of strategic importance for the resistance and where huge amounts of weapons were stacked. Tells of Carabinieri opposing the Fascist regime, having pledged allegiance to the king. Tells how, in absence of authority, the population resorted to informal mutual assistance networks.
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2017-02-25
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00:43:10 audio recording
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Interview with three survivors of the Po valley bombings
World War (1939-1945)
Bombing, Aerial
The informants remember wartime hardships endured near Pavia and Piacenza. Several stories recalled: a farmhouse being thoroughly searched for partisans, children questioned, people injured by shell splinters, a makeshift dugout used as shelter, improvised lighting at home, strafing, Germans looking for deserters and American troops giving away crackers to the children. They tell how the menacing presence of 'Pippo' forced them to relieve themselves inside on the floor. Mentions the bombings of Milan as seen from the countryside where they were.
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2017-04-13
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00:13:33 audio recording
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Interview with Tullio Magnani
World War (1939-1945)
Bombing, Aerial
Tullio Magnani remembers his wartime years in the Pavia province. Although his father was blacklisted as a subversive communist he did not have any trouble at school. He recounted his role as a young resistance helper smuggling food rationing coupons, while working as a shop boy for a well-known antifascist. Remembers being an eye-witness to the bombing of Milan from Pavia. Retells of a machine gun being set up by fascists on the Ticino river bank, which proved ineffective against allied aircraft. Mentions the strafing of a funeral procession at the Cava Manara municipality carried out by what was thought to be a spotter aircraft. Remembers 'Pippo' bombing at night and targeting the fishermens wharf. Stressing how, during the intense bombing and strafing of Pavia on 4 September when they lost everything, the local fascist authority of Travacò municipality was very helpful in providing them with cots, food and lodgings in a school. Mentions wartime episodes: people seeking refuge in a tunnel used as a makeshift shelter and the carnage that ensued from the bombing, a chemist being arrested for being caught red-handed listening to Radio London, how some driven by poverty and hunger, joined the fascist guards and resorted to going to the cinema before the curfew to find a warm place to stay. Explains how Pavia’s old bridge, unlike the other two which were hit, was not hit by the bombers because it was not clearly visible in the reconnaissance photographs taken from aircraft. Describes the celebrations at the end of the war and reflects on the duality of bombers / liberators. Remembers seeing for the first time an American soldier called Dino, who gave them a soap crate as a gift for washing his laundry. Mentions post war acts of revenge, his role in the local branch of the communist party, the 1948 general election, and how he did not get a job as a tax collector because of his political persuasion.
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2017-03-03
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00:52:11 audio recording
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Pavia [place]
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